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2025-12-02

it says he is optimistic but that really is just code for hopeful at the very best

Bitcoin’s Slumping Again. The Biggest Corporate Owner Admits It May Have to Sell If Things Get Worse

2025-05-24

$Apple(AAPL)$ reverse head and shoulders? it could make a little run back over $200.00 as the tariff talk by trump is probably already in the price.

2025-05-08

Tesla is noteworthy in that the media report indications of its European sales slides have not had any negative impact on the share price. Perhaps the typical tesla volatility seen historically has become somewhat temperate.

2025-02-04

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But if we did and we didn’t have other access to capital, we would sell bitcoin,” he told a podcast interview that published Friday. “That would be a last resort.”</p><p>The mNAV for the company formerly known as MicroStrategy, whose share are down 38% this year, currently stands at 1.19, but reached as high as 2.5 times in 2024 and around 1.7 times in June. An mNAV above 1 means Strategy trades at a premium to its bitcoin holdings.</p><p>Bitcoin’s price has dropped 7% this year, but selling in recent weeks has driven it 31% below its all-time high of $126,080 reached Oct. 6.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“We don’t really want to be the company that’s selling bitcoin,” Le said. “We have the most bitcoin. 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Us selling bitcoin wouldn’t be good for the ecosystem, it wouldn’t be good for the narrative.”Le said he remains optimistic on bitcoin going forward, saying that as long as bitcoin can double the performance of the S&P 500, gaining say 30% a year on the index’s 14%, then “we’re going to win.”“I think for the foreseeable future, we’re still talking 50% to 40% annualized returns over a four- to five-year period,” he said. “It’s an amazing technology, it has an amazing store value asset, it’s non-sovereign, it has a limited supply.”Le’s comments came as bitcoin appeared to be pulling back from a bounce that began just before Thanksgiving that drove the crypto trading to nearly $93,000 on Friday. Bitcoin was down over 4% at $86,722 on Monday, with U.S. stock futures also pulling lower. 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