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The Case For The S&P 500 Dropping To 2,200
SummaryThe S&P 500 is at risk of heading much lower than many think.This is not hyperbole; it is bas
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Wall Street Ends Down for Third Day As Growth Concerns Weigh on Tech
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U.S. Stocks To Watch: Accenture, FedEx, Costco and More
With US stock futures trading higher this morning on Thursday, some of the stocks that may grab inve
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US STOCKS-Wall Street Ends Choppy Session Higher With Focus Firmly on Fed
Wall Street's main indexes ended a seesaw session higher on Monday, as investors turned their attent
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The Fed Needs To Break The Market At This Week's Meeting
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Can the Fed Tame Inflation Without Further Crushing the Stock Market? What Investors Need to Know
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This company was dubbed by many as “the Amazon (AMZN) of South Asia and soon to be all of Latin America” and take over MercadoLibre’s (MELI) territory, and maybe even Europe. It was a three-headed monster of revenue growth in e-commerce, gaming, and digital banking.</p><p>Now if you invested in Sea Limited earlier like three years ago, you probably are not too upset considering you are still up 93% on your return. Just one supporting example of getting in a stock at a reasonable price and holding in the long-term pays off. Sea Limited was the FinTwit darling of the investment community, everyone was talking about the massive revenue growth it was delivering. The stock reached a 52-week all-time high of $372 a share this year and since then has lost over 83% of its value! So, was Sea Limited just one of the biggest one hit wonders in the stock market, or is there more to the story?</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/acb0bd5d2ab39c459620e2fe048d03fa\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p>My goals of this article are to share both the risks that are in place in buying more shares of Sea Limited or starting a position in the stock, but also why I believe there is a much higher chance of reward if you do so. I believe the next 12-18 months are going to be a defining moment for Sea Limited as a company, stock, as well as for their Founder & CEO Forrest Li.</p><h2>Let’s Layout The Risks And Challenges Of Investing Now</h2><p>Sea Limited is a holding company with three businesses under it, Garena their digital gaming arm, Shopee their e-commerce business, and SeaMoney the finance arm. Sea Limited has always relied on the profitable part of their business, Garena, to fuel financing the growth in their other two businesses. In a business model like this, it puts concentration risk on the necessity of Garena's success to ensure the other parts of the business can continue to grow.</p><p>Sea Limited’s Garena started out distributing well known game titles on their social online gaming platform Garena+, in various countries across Southeast Asia and Taiwan, including the online football (soccer) game FIFA Online, the first-person shooter game Point Blank, and multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) games like League of Legends and Arena of Valor. However, Garena also started publishing games and released its own game Free Fire, which was an instant success. Free Fire has been the number one mobile game on the App Store and Google Play Store for several years now. It was the Free Fire franchise that has caused Garena to be a profitable business for Sea Limited. Free Fire's growth peaked with over 243 million players monthly in 2021, but has now declined by 23% to a little over 189 million players.</p><p>Now if you are like me, and are concerned that there is concentration risk to Sea Limited producing cash, because of its heavy reliance on Free Fire, you would be right. However, at the time of my first investments in Sea Limited I was able to look over this because I was still bullish on all the fast expansion Sea Limited was delivering with its other business units.</p><p>Sea Limited was using its mobile game to intrigue gamers in multiple regions to use its other online products like Shopee and SeaMoney. Sea Limited expanded from their Southeast Asia Market into Latin America and even European countries like France and Poland. Sea limited then started building new businesses like their food delivery services and an artificial intelligence business segment called SeaAI.</p><p>My point to all of this was Forrest Li and his company were scaling their business rapidly fast to capture as much market share as they could and turn profits later, when they felt it was the right time. Money was cheap in 2020, we had mobile gaming and e-commerce at all-time highs, due to the pandemic constraints. Sea Limited was so committed to achieving fast paced growth that it grew its employee count from under 34,000 to nearly 68,000 in the year of 2021.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6206a58507aa48753e603c3e59f59059\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"405\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>History of Employee Growth (Simply Wall St. App)</span></p><p>That was a very aggressive and large gamble that essentially backfired on the company, one could argue. After 2021 the world changed again, with the pandemic ending and the macroeconomics and geo-political landscape becoming what it is today. Since then gaming has decreased significantly, hence the huge decline in Garena Entertainment revenues, which also contributed to the over $1 billion in net losses this recent Q2.</p><p>Let’s sum up these challenges which have created possible risk in the business, these past few quarters.</p><ul><li>Free Fire has had its daily average player decrease by over 50% in one year to 18.3 million and monthly average players 23%.</li><li>Sea Limited is on average losing over $1 billion in cash per quarter since Q3 of 2021</li><li>Sea Limited over-hired by doubling its employee count in one year and over extended itself in trying to capture multiple global regions of marketshare.</li><li>The company was committed to growth at all cost and was not prepared for if conditions were not ideal or relatively difficult from a macroeconomics & geopolitical perspective.</li><li>Sea Limited is not projected to be profitable next year in 2023, and right now the stock market is not in favor of money losing growth businesses.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3886a4f8968ff39bdf53960fc0787e40\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"366\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Sea Limited Cash on Hand (Sea Limited Q2 Earnings Presentation)</span></p><h2>The Defining Moment</h2><p>Okay, so if you are like me and are down significantly from your cost basis on your investment of Sea Limited, you may ask yourself “Is it time to sell? And most importantly do I believe Forrest Li and leadership can turn this ship around?” because if you don’t believe in the capabilities of the leadership team, then you may want to sell your shares now, because in the short-term things still might be painful for a bit.</p><p>However, let me share why I believe this is the defining moment that we see Sea Limited transform into a stronger business with a more mature focus on steady and reliable growth. Since the Q2 earnings presentation, Sea Limited has cut giving guidance on its e-commerce business Shopee as the macroeconomic headwinds are too hard to predict and this allows them to focus all efforts not on rapid revenue growth but optimizing costs and efficiencies.</p><p>I was extremely impressed with CEO Forrest Li’s letter to employees this past September, around creating a self-sufficient and sustainable business that doesn’t require any more third party funding to operate. I believe Forrest is evolving as a CEO and leader and recognizes the growth at all cost approach was not necessarily a mistake, but an approach that can backfire if the world of macroeconomics has a 180-degree shift. This shift is exactly what happened for global economics considering all of the following events happening, the war of Ukraine and Russia, supply chain issues, inflation and the cost for energy, and the economic aftermath of the pandemic.</p><p>My point is Forrest appears to be humble and strategic enough to know when the company must change course and do it fast to adapt in the new world, we are living in. In my opinion, this is a sign of a great leader and indications of someone that you can trust with your investment. The decisions the leadership team at Sea Limited had to make were not easy ones but necessary to position themselves to where they would not need to get more external financial funding and had a path to free cash flow positive and eventually profitability.</p><p>Here are all the things Forrest and his leadership team have done to cut costs in the recent months:</p><ul><li>CEO Forrest Li and his leadership team decided they will not take any cash compensation until the company achieves self-sufficiency (assuming this means until Sea Limited is free-cash-flow positive.)</li><li>Sea Limited cut staff by 3% in Shopee Indonesia and its marketing and operation units</li><li>The e-commerce arm Shopee will also shut down local operations in Chile, Colombia, Mexico, but will maintain cross-border operations.</li><li>Shopee will be completely exiting Argentina which is where MercadoLibre is Headquartered</li><li>The Garena gaming unit will be laying off hundreds of staff, totaling 15% of their workforce in their Shanghai office and canceled several new games</li><li>Shopee has withdrawn job offers and shutdown operations in India and France</li><li>As of October 1st, Sea will cap business travel to economy class flight fares, with travel meal expenses of $30 daily</li><li>Hotel Stays for business trips capped at $150 a night, and travel for local taxi and ride sharing also applied</li></ul><p>So some would read this as a lot of negative news for Sea Limited, but I would argue that this is what is needed and this focused approach on profitability over growth and gaining self-sufficiency will be the inflection point for this company. So many companies try to run the Amazon business model with trying to grow at all cost, capture marketshare, and then choose when to pull the profitability levers in their business.</p><p>The reality is Amazon had a business model that was one in a million! To be able to continue and fund their aggressive pursuit for market share dominance and growth at all costs, they bet on creating cloud computing with AWS, which became the ultimate cash cow. This is why in some facets their business model should not be adopted or at least tried to be completely replicated.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fa72d9ee4941411d6f564c631da6fcf3\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"470\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>1yr Analyst Price Targets (Simply Wall St. App)</span></p><h2>Where To Find The Positive Future?</h2><p>In my opinion, this could be the defining moment for Forrest Li’s turnaround of Sea Limited and making it a long-term profitable company a lot faster than what was originally projected. Here are some of the positive catalysts we could see.</p><ul><li>Sea Limited will now focus on its primary markets of business such as Southeast Asia and Brazil now, and could see increased revenues.</li><li>Traditionally the 2H of e-commerce businesses are much higher, so we could possibly see that here.</li><li>SeaMoney is expected to be Cash flow positive by FY23.</li><li>Parts of Shopee in Taiwan and Southeast Asia are projected to be EBITA positive by FY23.</li><li>I expect to see less stock-based compensation and more control on all expenses.</li><li>Garena has new games that are in the pipeline of their game studio Phoenix Labs, who created the hit RPG franchise Dauntless.</li><li>Garena could see growth from their investment in VIC Game Studios, who have a hit franchise called Black Clover that is releasing its RPG mobile version later this year.</li></ul><h2>Summary</h2><p>There have been numerous changes within the business that in the long run, I believe will make them more resilient and control their own fate, opposed to needing to rely on external financing for growth. I also believe with less regions to focus on expansion and more focus on concentrated execution, Shopee will be a more efficient and optimized e-commerce business. This company is trading significantly much cheaper than it was a year ago and is cheaper than its peers.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6383d2ba72b71e9f23420bd62e9fe9b0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"379\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Forward Price to Sales Ratio (Simply Wall St.)</span></p><p>I believe Garena has shown us they know how to create a winning franchise mobile video game and monetize it effectively and will do so with other titles in the future. Remember, as long as Sea Limited gets a handle on their spending and business operations, they still have $7.8 billion in cash to put towards their operations. I expect to see goodness from the new games coming from VIC Game Studios and Phoenix Labs, especially if Phoenix Labs could release a mobile version of Dauntless, as it is only on consoles yet it still has 30 million players worldwide!</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1d286e5f6047200423e6ecbd1bad440b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"360\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Dauntless by Phoenix Labs (Phoenix Labs Website)</span></p><p>I will agree this past year has been a crushing blow in the markets, especially for Sea Limited, but I feel these next one to two years are going to show the adaptability and resilience of Forest Li and the company. I know an 83% drop from all time highs hurt like a punch in the gut, but Amazon also had a drop or two like this over its history. I am not saying Sea Limited is the next Amazon, but saying that Sea Limited is not a dead company by any means. I believe they can bounce back and get to those all-time highs for patient investors.</p><p>This company still has nearly 30% revenue growth year over year, $7.8 billion in cash, new revenue catalysts ahead of it, a new company focus on free-cash-flow positive operations, and secular tailwinds to ride with e-commerce, mobile gaming, and esports, and providing fintech solutions for the unbanked.</p><p><i>This article was written by Dominic Rinaldi for reference. Please pay attention to the risks.</i></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Sea Limited: A Defining Moment In Time</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nSea Limited: A Defining Moment In Time\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-10-10 08:07 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4545445-sea-limited-defining-moment-in-time><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryIn the immediate term, Sea Limited is focused on finding every way they can to reduce their operating costs.Sea Limited is taking on aggressive measures to become free-cash-flow positive as ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4545445-sea-limited-defining-moment-in-time\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"SE":"Sea Ltd"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4545445-sea-limited-defining-moment-in-time","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1157714171","content_text":"SummaryIn the immediate term, Sea Limited is focused on finding every way they can to reduce their operating costs.Sea Limited is taking on aggressive measures to become free-cash-flow positive as soon as possible.CEO Forrest Li is committed to changing the focus of the company on profits versus growth at all costs.Sea Limited has experienced decline in their gaming business Garena and other parts of the business are not yet profitable.This stock is 7x cheaper from a year ago, with a price-to-sales ratio under 3!WachiwitWhat’s The Goal Of This Article?If you invested in Sea Limited (NYSE:SE) throughout 2020 and 2021 like I did, you are surely not happy with your loss of returns. This company was dubbed by many as “the Amazon (AMZN) of South Asia and soon to be all of Latin America” and take over MercadoLibre’s (MELI) territory, and maybe even Europe. It was a three-headed monster of revenue growth in e-commerce, gaming, and digital banking.Now if you invested in Sea Limited earlier like three years ago, you probably are not too upset considering you are still up 93% on your return. Just one supporting example of getting in a stock at a reasonable price and holding in the long-term pays off. Sea Limited was the FinTwit darling of the investment community, everyone was talking about the massive revenue growth it was delivering. The stock reached a 52-week all-time high of $372 a share this year and since then has lost over 83% of its value! So, was Sea Limited just one of the biggest one hit wonders in the stock market, or is there more to the story?Data by YChartsMy goals of this article are to share both the risks that are in place in buying more shares of Sea Limited or starting a position in the stock, but also why I believe there is a much higher chance of reward if you do so. I believe the next 12-18 months are going to be a defining moment for Sea Limited as a company, stock, as well as for their Founder & CEO Forrest Li.Let’s Layout The Risks And Challenges Of Investing NowSea Limited is a holding company with three businesses under it, Garena their digital gaming arm, Shopee their e-commerce business, and SeaMoney the finance arm. Sea Limited has always relied on the profitable part of their business, Garena, to fuel financing the growth in their other two businesses. In a business model like this, it puts concentration risk on the necessity of Garena's success to ensure the other parts of the business can continue to grow.Sea Limited’s Garena started out distributing well known game titles on their social online gaming platform Garena+, in various countries across Southeast Asia and Taiwan, including the online football (soccer) game FIFA Online, the first-person shooter game Point Blank, and multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) games like League of Legends and Arena of Valor. However, Garena also started publishing games and released its own game Free Fire, which was an instant success. Free Fire has been the number one mobile game on the App Store and Google Play Store for several years now. It was the Free Fire franchise that has caused Garena to be a profitable business for Sea Limited. Free Fire's growth peaked with over 243 million players monthly in 2021, but has now declined by 23% to a little over 189 million players.Now if you are like me, and are concerned that there is concentration risk to Sea Limited producing cash, because of its heavy reliance on Free Fire, you would be right. However, at the time of my first investments in Sea Limited I was able to look over this because I was still bullish on all the fast expansion Sea Limited was delivering with its other business units.Sea Limited was using its mobile game to intrigue gamers in multiple regions to use its other online products like Shopee and SeaMoney. Sea Limited expanded from their Southeast Asia Market into Latin America and even European countries like France and Poland. Sea limited then started building new businesses like their food delivery services and an artificial intelligence business segment called SeaAI.My point to all of this was Forrest Li and his company were scaling their business rapidly fast to capture as much market share as they could and turn profits later, when they felt it was the right time. Money was cheap in 2020, we had mobile gaming and e-commerce at all-time highs, due to the pandemic constraints. Sea Limited was so committed to achieving fast paced growth that it grew its employee count from under 34,000 to nearly 68,000 in the year of 2021.History of Employee Growth (Simply Wall St. App)That was a very aggressive and large gamble that essentially backfired on the company, one could argue. After 2021 the world changed again, with the pandemic ending and the macroeconomics and geo-political landscape becoming what it is today. Since then gaming has decreased significantly, hence the huge decline in Garena Entertainment revenues, which also contributed to the over $1 billion in net losses this recent Q2.Let’s sum up these challenges which have created possible risk in the business, these past few quarters.Free Fire has had its daily average player decrease by over 50% in one year to 18.3 million and monthly average players 23%.Sea Limited is on average losing over $1 billion in cash per quarter since Q3 of 2021Sea Limited over-hired by doubling its employee count in one year and over extended itself in trying to capture multiple global regions of marketshare.The company was committed to growth at all cost and was not prepared for if conditions were not ideal or relatively difficult from a macroeconomics & geopolitical perspective.Sea Limited is not projected to be profitable next year in 2023, and right now the stock market is not in favor of money losing growth businesses.Sea Limited Cash on Hand (Sea Limited Q2 Earnings Presentation)The Defining MomentOkay, so if you are like me and are down significantly from your cost basis on your investment of Sea Limited, you may ask yourself “Is it time to sell? And most importantly do I believe Forrest Li and leadership can turn this ship around?” because if you don’t believe in the capabilities of the leadership team, then you may want to sell your shares now, because in the short-term things still might be painful for a bit.However, let me share why I believe this is the defining moment that we see Sea Limited transform into a stronger business with a more mature focus on steady and reliable growth. Since the Q2 earnings presentation, Sea Limited has cut giving guidance on its e-commerce business Shopee as the macroeconomic headwinds are too hard to predict and this allows them to focus all efforts not on rapid revenue growth but optimizing costs and efficiencies.I was extremely impressed with CEO Forrest Li’s letter to employees this past September, around creating a self-sufficient and sustainable business that doesn’t require any more third party funding to operate. I believe Forrest is evolving as a CEO and leader and recognizes the growth at all cost approach was not necessarily a mistake, but an approach that can backfire if the world of macroeconomics has a 180-degree shift. This shift is exactly what happened for global economics considering all of the following events happening, the war of Ukraine and Russia, supply chain issues, inflation and the cost for energy, and the economic aftermath of the pandemic.My point is Forrest appears to be humble and strategic enough to know when the company must change course and do it fast to adapt in the new world, we are living in. In my opinion, this is a sign of a great leader and indications of someone that you can trust with your investment. The decisions the leadership team at Sea Limited had to make were not easy ones but necessary to position themselves to where they would not need to get more external financial funding and had a path to free cash flow positive and eventually profitability.Here are all the things Forrest and his leadership team have done to cut costs in the recent months:CEO Forrest Li and his leadership team decided they will not take any cash compensation until the company achieves self-sufficiency (assuming this means until Sea Limited is free-cash-flow positive.)Sea Limited cut staff by 3% in Shopee Indonesia and its marketing and operation unitsThe e-commerce arm Shopee will also shut down local operations in Chile, Colombia, Mexico, but will maintain cross-border operations.Shopee will be completely exiting Argentina which is where MercadoLibre is HeadquarteredThe Garena gaming unit will be laying off hundreds of staff, totaling 15% of their workforce in their Shanghai office and canceled several new gamesShopee has withdrawn job offers and shutdown operations in India and FranceAs of October 1st, Sea will cap business travel to economy class flight fares, with travel meal expenses of $30 dailyHotel Stays for business trips capped at $150 a night, and travel for local taxi and ride sharing also appliedSo some would read this as a lot of negative news for Sea Limited, but I would argue that this is what is needed and this focused approach on profitability over growth and gaining self-sufficiency will be the inflection point for this company. So many companies try to run the Amazon business model with trying to grow at all cost, capture marketshare, and then choose when to pull the profitability levers in their business.The reality is Amazon had a business model that was one in a million! To be able to continue and fund their aggressive pursuit for market share dominance and growth at all costs, they bet on creating cloud computing with AWS, which became the ultimate cash cow. This is why in some facets their business model should not be adopted or at least tried to be completely replicated.1yr Analyst Price Targets (Simply Wall St. App)Where To Find The Positive Future?In my opinion, this could be the defining moment for Forrest Li’s turnaround of Sea Limited and making it a long-term profitable company a lot faster than what was originally projected. Here are some of the positive catalysts we could see.Sea Limited will now focus on its primary markets of business such as Southeast Asia and Brazil now, and could see increased revenues.Traditionally the 2H of e-commerce businesses are much higher, so we could possibly see that here.SeaMoney is expected to be Cash flow positive by FY23.Parts of Shopee in Taiwan and Southeast Asia are projected to be EBITA positive by FY23.I expect to see less stock-based compensation and more control on all expenses.Garena has new games that are in the pipeline of their game studio Phoenix Labs, who created the hit RPG franchise Dauntless.Garena could see growth from their investment in VIC Game Studios, who have a hit franchise called Black Clover that is releasing its RPG mobile version later this year.SummaryThere have been numerous changes within the business that in the long run, I believe will make them more resilient and control their own fate, opposed to needing to rely on external financing for growth. I also believe with less regions to focus on expansion and more focus on concentrated execution, Shopee will be a more efficient and optimized e-commerce business. This company is trading significantly much cheaper than it was a year ago and is cheaper than its peers.Forward Price to Sales Ratio (Simply Wall St.)I believe Garena has shown us they know how to create a winning franchise mobile video game and monetize it effectively and will do so with other titles in the future. Remember, as long as Sea Limited gets a handle on their spending and business operations, they still have $7.8 billion in cash to put towards their operations. I expect to see goodness from the new games coming from VIC Game Studios and Phoenix Labs, especially if Phoenix Labs could release a mobile version of Dauntless, as it is only on consoles yet it still has 30 million players worldwide!Dauntless by Phoenix Labs (Phoenix Labs Website)I will agree this past year has been a crushing blow in the markets, especially for Sea Limited, but I feel these next one to two years are going to show the adaptability and resilience of Forest Li and the company. I know an 83% drop from all time highs hurt like a punch in the gut, but Amazon also had a drop or two like this over its history. I am not saying Sea Limited is the next Amazon, but saying that Sea Limited is not a dead company by any means. I believe they can bounce back and get to those all-time highs for patient investors.This company still has nearly 30% revenue growth year over year, $7.8 billion in cash, new revenue catalysts ahead of it, a new company focus on free-cash-flow positive operations, and secular tailwinds to ride with e-commerce, mobile gaming, and esports, and providing fintech solutions for the unbanked.This article was written by Dominic Rinaldi for reference. 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The S&P 500 (SP500) had just lost about one-third of its value in five weeks. It fell from around 3,400 to just under 2,200. Lockdowns, panic, and red ink on stock portfolios were everywhere. Then, likeit was shot out of a cannon, yet another extension of the 11-year bull market that began back in 2009 commenced. But if this "new era" of investing in the stock market plays out the way it appears to be, based on current charts and recent history, that 2,200 level from late March 2020 could be the S&P 500's ultimate destination before this bear market cycle concludes.</p><p><b>Current Evidence</b></p><p>In this new era of inflation, Fed-obsessed investors, algorithmic trading, and index-driven investment flows, the market is more of a confidence game than I've seen in three decades of investing professionally. And that confidence is fading, drop by drop. As a 42-year chartist, my evidence always ultimately boils down to a picture. Here's one to explain it to you.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ea920e21231810c68359aaca3af08d36\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"286\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>What you don't want to see if you are looking for "the bottom" (TC2000)</p><p>This a technical chart (weekly prices) of the S&P 500 back to late 2019, so you can see how far we've come - and, perhaps, where we are going again. Because while any investment or index can rise in price at any time, the intermediate-term risk attached to nearly any market segment, theme, industry, or sector right now is high. Historically high.</p><p>What do I see in this chart? The top section of graph (price pattern) and the price percent oscillator (PPO) momentum indicator in the bottom section of the chart shows at least three important warning signs for those who are counting on a "quick fix" to the current stock market malaise.</p><p><b>That Stubborn Trendline</b></p><p>Since Jan. 4 of this year (the second trading day of 2022), the S&P 500, and most of the global stock market, has been in a clear downward trend. That's the black line shown toward the top of the chart. Think of this line as marking the rite of passage if a new bull market is going to start anytime soon. The bulls have had three cracks at it - in April, August, and earlier this month. In all three cases, the result was, as we technicians say, "failure." The S&P 500's price failed to cross above and stay above that downward trend.</p><p>Frankly, breaking above that downtrend line is a pretty low bar for hopeful bullish stock investors right now. It would take a convincing, sustainable move toward the 4,300 area to negate all of the downward pressure that stocks have experienced this year. And that is still more than 10% from the S&P 500's all-time high level around 4,800.</p><p><b>Those Darn Red Arrows</b></p><p>A more detailed version of what you just read above is to see how many false rallies we've had during this eight-month downtrend for stocks. Every red arrow I drew into the chart marks a moment where bullish investors (and Wall Street firm cheerleaders, who need bull markets to keep their revenues flowing) might have felt that "the bottom was in."</p><p>Well, there are 12 red arrows on that chart, and one orange arrow at the far right, as the recent market malaise sorts itself out. That's a lot of failure, and lends strong evidence to my belief that the most likely intermediate direction for the S&P 500 is down - a lot.</p><p><b>Watch Out for the Cross</b></p><p>I'll spare you a full dissertation on the PPO, except to tell you that in 42 years of charting, I've seen and tried a lot of different technical indicators. The PPO is my personal favorite, and the longer the time frame you look (e.g., charts of weekly prices v. daily, hourly, etc.), the more I have come to regard it as a market "truth teller."</p><p>What the PPO on the S&P 500 tells me now is that we are close to the weekly indicator crossing over to the downside. In English, that means decidedly negative price momentum. So, while shorter-term PPO time frames have already crossed over, this is the one that might just take us from all of those red arrows (rallies that fail) to something more serious, and something more emotional for investors on the way down.</p><p><b>Historical Evidence: The Dot-Com Era</b></p><p>At this point, you might be thinking the same thing many investors tell me when I proclaim that 2,200 could be the ultimate destination for the S&P 500 in this bear cycle: "No way - really?!" Here's some history to either remind you or inform you of what happens when the stock market goes from an era of excessive speculation to increasing concern, and eventually to emotional chaos.</p><p>The S&P 500 lost about half of its value from March 2000 to March 2003. Here's what that looked like.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9dc0e2b19c0fdb9c7a513fddf091eff0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"401\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>S&P 500: Dot-Com Bubble (Ycharts.com)</p><p>However, as with the current market environment in 2022, it was not as simple as a 50% "flash crash." It was more like the proverbial boiling frog analogy. It took the form of a series of sharp drops and hopeful rallies. However, as has been the case in 2022, the rallies didn't last - and so I kept having to add more of those red arrows to that first chart.</p><p>Here's what happened starting 11 months into the dot-com bubble. The S&P 500 had fallen about 20%, then gained back enough to leave it down only 10% from its all-time high. Yes, the same thing happened this year. Coincidence or human nature? It doesn't really matter. Price rules.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3e5b1c78e195588102f84a74a3bee661\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"424\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>S&P 500: Dot-Com Bubble - just when you thought it was over! (Ycharts.com)</p><p>So that initial decline and recovery, which netted the S&P 500 about a 10% loss, was succeeded by a whopping 40%+ decline. The S&P 500's most recent rally topped out at around 4,300. Take 40% off of that, and you are in the 2,600 area. As history would have it, that was the better of the first two bear markets of this century.</p><p><b>Historical Evidence: Global Financial Crisis</b></p><p>If you are keeping score at home, the dot-com bust meant that index fund investors had to double their money just to earn a zero return since the start of that time frame. And they did exactly that, from 2003 through 2007.</p><p>And then, it happened again. Here's the S&P 500 from October 2007 through March of 2009.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4dbb9483c84007e214ce0d1b40345d24\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"396\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>S&P 500: Global Financial Crisis (Ycharts.com)</p><p>Once again, there was the initial drop, the "it's only a flesh wound" (with apologies to "Monty Python") phase, and then this from August 2008 through March 2009.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/78eee7337e28dd849990a96ddc9e04a9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"396\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>S&P 500 GFC - just when you thought it was over! (Ycharts.com)</p><p>The net result, as the previous chart showed, was a 56% drop from the peak. If you had invested in an S&P 500 Index fund on Jan. 4, 2022, and the 2007-09 down move repeated itself, your ultimate destination would be around 2,100. So, a move from S&P 4,800 down to 2,200 in the coming year or two doesn't seem so unlikely.</p><p><b>Observations and Conclusions</b></p><p>Stock market analysis and evaluation of risk is never an all-or-nothing proposition. Instead, it is about evaluating as many possible scenarios as you can, including some realistic but generally unthinkable ones. After all, any investment can go up at any time. What distinguishes any security and any market climate from any another is the amount of major risk you are taking when you put that capital to work.</p><p>Here in the final third of 2022, and considering potential reward and risk through to 2023, my conclusion is that the level of market risk is currently at a historically high rate.</p><p><b>The Good News for Bulls (for Now)</b></p><p>That doesn't mean 2,200 is a given. It just means that the odds favor much more downside from here. Whether by way of the Fed's magic wand or some change of heart by a hoard of investors, the S&P 500 could reverse course, get happy again, and move toward and above that all-time high and above 5,000. It could happen this year or next year. One never knows.</p><p>But if you are "counting" on that based on the fact that we have not had a sustained decline in the S&P 500 in over 13 years, you are investing with rose-colored glasses. Inflation is the new wildcard, and was not an issue during the periods shown above.</p><p>Furthermore, the nature of market participants has changed, with piles of money flooded into index funds, and so much short-term trading by professional and retail investors alike. The odds of something breaking are high. And the S&P 500's chart is telling us that. We just need to listen.</p><p><b>What to Do if I'm Right</b></p><p>As my team and I will cover extensively and exclusively at Seeking Alpha in the days, weeks, and months ahead, there is a wide variety of investment weapons available to investors today. These allow them to not simply defend bear markets in stocks and bonds, but exploit them for profit. But before any investor can consider that step, they must first acknowledge that at the present time accounting for risk of major loss, so you can prevent it, should be every investor's top priority.</p><p><b>The Key: Mix Offense and Defense in Portfolios</b></p><p>I truly believe markets are at a critical crossroads. That means the tremendous wealth accumulated over the past decade is at risk, for those who don't know how to mix defense with their offense. The bottom line is that this autumn, we find ourselves in a market climate that is only rivaled by the last two times investors saw half of the index funds' value disappear. Be careful out there, and learn how to navigate this new and, dare I say, historic climate.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Case For The S&P 500 Dropping To 2,200</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Case For The S&P 500 Dropping To 2,200\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-09-23 23:21 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4542347-the-s-and-p-500-set-to-drop><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryThe S&P 500 is at risk of heading much lower than many think.This is not hyperbole; it is based on a combination of historical analysis and the realities of the current market climate.While ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4542347-the-s-and-p-500-set-to-drop\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4542347-the-s-and-p-500-set-to-drop","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1177261377","content_text":"SummaryThe S&P 500 is at risk of heading much lower than many think.This is not hyperbole; it is based on a combination of historical analysis and the realities of the current market climate.While history doesn't repeat exactly, human nature has a way of making it \"rhyme\" with the past.The technical condition of the broad stock market looks terrible on an intermediate-term basis.There's always a chance for a \"save\" - e.g., by the Fed - but inflation completely changes the calculus.Remember back in late March of 2020? The S&P 500 (SP500) had just lost about one-third of its value in five weeks. It fell from around 3,400 to just under 2,200. Lockdowns, panic, and red ink on stock portfolios were everywhere. Then, likeit was shot out of a cannon, yet another extension of the 11-year bull market that began back in 2009 commenced. But if this \"new era\" of investing in the stock market plays out the way it appears to be, based on current charts and recent history, that 2,200 level from late March 2020 could be the S&P 500's ultimate destination before this bear market cycle concludes.Current EvidenceIn this new era of inflation, Fed-obsessed investors, algorithmic trading, and index-driven investment flows, the market is more of a confidence game than I've seen in three decades of investing professionally. And that confidence is fading, drop by drop. As a 42-year chartist, my evidence always ultimately boils down to a picture. Here's one to explain it to you.What you don't want to see if you are looking for \"the bottom\" (TC2000)This a technical chart (weekly prices) of the S&P 500 back to late 2019, so you can see how far we've come - and, perhaps, where we are going again. Because while any investment or index can rise in price at any time, the intermediate-term risk attached to nearly any market segment, theme, industry, or sector right now is high. Historically high.What do I see in this chart? The top section of graph (price pattern) and the price percent oscillator (PPO) momentum indicator in the bottom section of the chart shows at least three important warning signs for those who are counting on a \"quick fix\" to the current stock market malaise.That Stubborn TrendlineSince Jan. 4 of this year (the second trading day of 2022), the S&P 500, and most of the global stock market, has been in a clear downward trend. That's the black line shown toward the top of the chart. Think of this line as marking the rite of passage if a new bull market is going to start anytime soon. The bulls have had three cracks at it - in April, August, and earlier this month. In all three cases, the result was, as we technicians say, \"failure.\" The S&P 500's price failed to cross above and stay above that downward trend.Frankly, breaking above that downtrend line is a pretty low bar for hopeful bullish stock investors right now. It would take a convincing, sustainable move toward the 4,300 area to negate all of the downward pressure that stocks have experienced this year. And that is still more than 10% from the S&P 500's all-time high level around 4,800.Those Darn Red ArrowsA more detailed version of what you just read above is to see how many false rallies we've had during this eight-month downtrend for stocks. Every red arrow I drew into the chart marks a moment where bullish investors (and Wall Street firm cheerleaders, who need bull markets to keep their revenues flowing) might have felt that \"the bottom was in.\"Well, there are 12 red arrows on that chart, and one orange arrow at the far right, as the recent market malaise sorts itself out. That's a lot of failure, and lends strong evidence to my belief that the most likely intermediate direction for the S&P 500 is down - a lot.Watch Out for the CrossI'll spare you a full dissertation on the PPO, except to tell you that in 42 years of charting, I've seen and tried a lot of different technical indicators. The PPO is my personal favorite, and the longer the time frame you look (e.g., charts of weekly prices v. daily, hourly, etc.), the more I have come to regard it as a market \"truth teller.\"What the PPO on the S&P 500 tells me now is that we are close to the weekly indicator crossing over to the downside. In English, that means decidedly negative price momentum. So, while shorter-term PPO time frames have already crossed over, this is the one that might just take us from all of those red arrows (rallies that fail) to something more serious, and something more emotional for investors on the way down.Historical Evidence: The Dot-Com EraAt this point, you might be thinking the same thing many investors tell me when I proclaim that 2,200 could be the ultimate destination for the S&P 500 in this bear cycle: \"No way - really?!\" Here's some history to either remind you or inform you of what happens when the stock market goes from an era of excessive speculation to increasing concern, and eventually to emotional chaos.The S&P 500 lost about half of its value from March 2000 to March 2003. Here's what that looked like.S&P 500: Dot-Com Bubble (Ycharts.com)However, as with the current market environment in 2022, it was not as simple as a 50% \"flash crash.\" It was more like the proverbial boiling frog analogy. It took the form of a series of sharp drops and hopeful rallies. However, as has been the case in 2022, the rallies didn't last - and so I kept having to add more of those red arrows to that first chart.Here's what happened starting 11 months into the dot-com bubble. The S&P 500 had fallen about 20%, then gained back enough to leave it down only 10% from its all-time high. Yes, the same thing happened this year. Coincidence or human nature? It doesn't really matter. Price rules.S&P 500: Dot-Com Bubble - just when you thought it was over! (Ycharts.com)So that initial decline and recovery, which netted the S&P 500 about a 10% loss, was succeeded by a whopping 40%+ decline. The S&P 500's most recent rally topped out at around 4,300. Take 40% off of that, and you are in the 2,600 area. As history would have it, that was the better of the first two bear markets of this century.Historical Evidence: Global Financial CrisisIf you are keeping score at home, the dot-com bust meant that index fund investors had to double their money just to earn a zero return since the start of that time frame. And they did exactly that, from 2003 through 2007.And then, it happened again. Here's the S&P 500 from October 2007 through March of 2009.S&P 500: Global Financial Crisis (Ycharts.com)Once again, there was the initial drop, the \"it's only a flesh wound\" (with apologies to \"Monty Python\") phase, and then this from August 2008 through March 2009.S&P 500 GFC - just when you thought it was over! (Ycharts.com)The net result, as the previous chart showed, was a 56% drop from the peak. If you had invested in an S&P 500 Index fund on Jan. 4, 2022, and the 2007-09 down move repeated itself, your ultimate destination would be around 2,100. So, a move from S&P 4,800 down to 2,200 in the coming year or two doesn't seem so unlikely.Observations and ConclusionsStock market analysis and evaluation of risk is never an all-or-nothing proposition. Instead, it is about evaluating as many possible scenarios as you can, including some realistic but generally unthinkable ones. After all, any investment can go up at any time. What distinguishes any security and any market climate from any another is the amount of major risk you are taking when you put that capital to work.Here in the final third of 2022, and considering potential reward and risk through to 2023, my conclusion is that the level of market risk is currently at a historically high rate.The Good News for Bulls (for Now)That doesn't mean 2,200 is a given. It just means that the odds favor much more downside from here. Whether by way of the Fed's magic wand or some change of heart by a hoard of investors, the S&P 500 could reverse course, get happy again, and move toward and above that all-time high and above 5,000. It could happen this year or next year. One never knows.But if you are \"counting\" on that based on the fact that we have not had a sustained decline in the S&P 500 in over 13 years, you are investing with rose-colored glasses. Inflation is the new wildcard, and was not an issue during the periods shown above.Furthermore, the nature of market participants has changed, with piles of money flooded into index funds, and so much short-term trading by professional and retail investors alike. The odds of something breaking are high. And the S&P 500's chart is telling us that. We just need to listen.What to Do if I'm RightAs my team and I will cover extensively and exclusively at Seeking Alpha in the days, weeks, and months ahead, there is a wide variety of investment weapons available to investors today. These allow them to not simply defend bear markets in stocks and bonds, but exploit them for profit. But before any investor can consider that step, they must first acknowledge that at the present time accounting for risk of major loss, so you can prevent it, should be every investor's top priority.The Key: Mix Offense and Defense in PortfoliosI truly believe markets are at a critical crossroads. That means the tremendous wealth accumulated over the past decade is at risk, for those who don't know how to mix defense with their offense. The bottom line is that this autumn, we find ourselves in a market climate that is only rivaled by the last two times investors saw half of the index funds' value disappear. 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Excluding the energy sector, the growth rate is at -1.7%.</p><p>The S&P 500's forward price-to-earnings ratio, a common metric for valuing stocks, is at 16.8 times earnings - far below the nearly 22 times forward P/E that stocks commanded at the start of the year.</p><p>Nine of the 11 major S&P sectors fell, led by declines of 2.2% and 1.7%, respectively, in consumer discretionary and financial stocks.</p><p>Shares of megacap technology and growth companies such as Amazon.com Inc, Tesla Inc and Nvidia Corp fell between 1% and 5.3% as benchmark U.S. Treasury yields hit an 11-year high.</p><p>Rising yields weigh particularly on valuations of companies in the technology sector, which have high expected future earnings and form a significant part of the market-cap weighted indexes such as the S&P 500.</p><p>The S&P 500 tech sector has slumped 28% so far this year, compared with a 21.2% decline in the benchmark index.</p><p>"If we continue to have sticky inflation, and if (Fed Chair Jerome) Powell sticks to his guns as he indicates, I think we enter recession and we see significant drawdown on earnings expectations," said Mike Mullaney, director of global markets at Boston Partners.</p><p>"If this happens, I have high conviction under those conditions that we break 3,636," he added, referring to the S&P 500's mid-June low, its weakest point of the year.</p><p>The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 107.1 points, or 0.35%, to 30,076.68, the S&P 500 lost 31.94 points, or 0.84%, to 3,757.99 and the Nasdaq Composite dropped 153.39 points, or 1.37%, to 11,066.81.</p><p>Major U.S. airlines - which have enjoyed a rebound amid increased travel as pandemic restrictions end - were also down, with United Airlines and American Airlines falling 4.6% and 3.9% respectively. This took losses in the last three days to 11% for United and 10.6% for American.</p><p>JetBlue Airways Corp, off 7.1% and also recording a third straight loss, closed at its lowest level since March 2020.</p><p>Darden Restaurants Inc slid 4.4% after the Olive Garden parent reported downbeat first-quarter sales.</p><p>Volume on U.S. exchanges was 11.39 billion shares, compared with the 10.91 billion average for the full session over the last 20 trading days.</p><p>The S&P 500 posted one new 52-week high and 123 new lows; the Nasdaq Composite recorded 18 new highs and 699 new lows.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Wall Street Ends Down for Third Day As Growth Concerns Weigh on Tech</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Excluding the energy sector, the growth rate is at -1.7%.</p><p>The S&P 500's forward price-to-earnings ratio, a common metric for valuing stocks, is at 16.8 times earnings - far below the nearly 22 times forward P/E that stocks commanded at the start of the year.</p><p>Nine of the 11 major S&P sectors fell, led by declines of 2.2% and 1.7%, respectively, in consumer discretionary and financial stocks.</p><p>Shares of megacap technology and growth companies such as Amazon.com Inc, Tesla Inc and Nvidia Corp fell between 1% and 5.3% as benchmark U.S. Treasury yields hit an 11-year high.</p><p>Rising yields weigh particularly on valuations of companies in the technology sector, which have high expected future earnings and form a significant part of the market-cap weighted indexes such as the S&P 500.</p><p>The S&P 500 tech sector has slumped 28% so far this year, compared with a 21.2% decline in the benchmark index.</p><p>"If we continue to have sticky inflation, and if (Fed Chair Jerome) Powell sticks to his guns as he indicates, I think we enter recession and we see significant drawdown on earnings expectations," said Mike Mullaney, director of global markets at Boston Partners.</p><p>"If this happens, I have high conviction under those conditions that we break 3,636," he added, referring to the S&P 500's mid-June low, its weakest point of the year.</p><p>The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 107.1 points, or 0.35%, to 30,076.68, the S&P 500 lost 31.94 points, or 0.84%, to 3,757.99 and the Nasdaq Composite dropped 153.39 points, or 1.37%, to 11,066.81.</p><p>Major U.S. airlines - which have enjoyed a rebound amid increased travel as pandemic restrictions end - were also down, with United Airlines and American Airlines falling 4.6% and 3.9% respectively. This took losses in the last three days to 11% for United and 10.6% for American.</p><p>JetBlue Airways Corp, off 7.1% and also recording a third straight loss, closed at its lowest level since March 2020.</p><p>Darden Restaurants Inc slid 4.4% after the Olive Garden parent reported downbeat first-quarter sales.</p><p>Volume on U.S. exchanges was 11.39 billion shares, compared with the 10.91 billion average for the full session over the last 20 trading days.</p><p>The S&P 500 posted one new 52-week high and 123 new lows; the Nasdaq Composite recorded 18 new highs and 699 new lows.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"UAL":"联合大陆航空","SPY":"标普500ETF","SDOW":"三倍做空道指30ETF-ProShares",".DJI":"道琼斯","LABP":"Landos Biopharma, Inc.","DDM":"2倍做多道指ETF-ProShares","UPRO":"三倍做多标普500ETF-ProShares","CGEM":"Cullinan Therapeutics","AMZN":"亚马逊",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","FDX":"联邦快递","JBLU":"捷蓝航空","SDS":"两倍做空标普500 ETF-ProShares",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","SANA":"Sana Biotechnology, Inc.","DOG":"道指ETF-ProShares做空","F":"福特汽车","BK4559":"巴菲特持仓","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","NVDA":"英伟达","DRI":"达登饭店","LHDX":"Lucira Health, Inc.","TSLA":"特斯拉","SSO":"2倍做多标普500ETF-ProShares","OEF":"标普100指数ETF-iShares","DXD":"两倍做空道琼30指数ETF-ProShares","SH":"做空标普500-Proshares","UDOW":"三倍做多道指30ETF-ProShares","SPXU":"三倍做空标普500ETF-ProShares","DJX":"1/100道琼斯","IVV":"标普500ETF-iShares","OEX":"标普100","AAL":"美国航空","BK4581":"高盛持仓"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2269749121","content_text":"* Tech stocks down in aftermath of Fed's latest rate move* Investors concerned about possibility of recession* Darden Restaurants falls on downbeat quarterly sales* JetBlue posts lowest close since March 2020* Indexes down: Dow 0.35%, S&P 0.84%, Nasdaq 1.37%Sept 22 (Reuters) - Major Wall Street indexes ended lower on Thursday, falling for a third straight session as investors reacted to the Federal Reserve's latest aggressive move to rein in inflation by selling growth stocks, including technology companies.The Fed lifted rates by an expected 75 basis points on Wednesday and signaled a longer trajectory for policy rates than markets had priced in, fuelling fears of further volatility in stock and bond trading in a year that has already seen bear markets in both asset classes.The U.S. central bank's projections for economic growth released on Wednesday were also eye-catching, with growth of just 0.2% this year, rising to 1.2% for 2023.Jitters were already present in the market after a number of companies - most recently FedEx Corp and Ford Motor Co- issued dire outlooks for earnings.As of Friday, the S&P 500's estimated earnings growth for the third quarter is at 5%, according to Refinitiv data. Excluding the energy sector, the growth rate is at -1.7%.The S&P 500's forward price-to-earnings ratio, a common metric for valuing stocks, is at 16.8 times earnings - far below the nearly 22 times forward P/E that stocks commanded at the start of the year.Nine of the 11 major S&P sectors fell, led by declines of 2.2% and 1.7%, respectively, in consumer discretionary and financial stocks.Shares of megacap technology and growth companies such as Amazon.com Inc, Tesla Inc and Nvidia Corp fell between 1% and 5.3% as benchmark U.S. Treasury yields hit an 11-year high.Rising yields weigh particularly on valuations of companies in the technology sector, which have high expected future earnings and form a significant part of the market-cap weighted indexes such as the S&P 500.The S&P 500 tech sector has slumped 28% so far this year, compared with a 21.2% decline in the benchmark index.\"If we continue to have sticky inflation, and if (Fed Chair Jerome) Powell sticks to his guns as he indicates, I think we enter recession and we see significant drawdown on earnings expectations,\" said Mike Mullaney, director of global markets at Boston Partners.\"If this happens, I have high conviction under those conditions that we break 3,636,\" he added, referring to the S&P 500's mid-June low, its weakest point of the year.The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 107.1 points, or 0.35%, to 30,076.68, the S&P 500 lost 31.94 points, or 0.84%, to 3,757.99 and the Nasdaq Composite dropped 153.39 points, or 1.37%, to 11,066.81.Major U.S. airlines - which have enjoyed a rebound amid increased travel as pandemic restrictions end - were also down, with United Airlines and American Airlines falling 4.6% and 3.9% respectively. 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Accenture shares fell 1.7% to $260.93 in after-hours trading.</li><li><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KBH\">KB Home</a> reported better-than-expected earnings for its third quarter. The company also said it sees Q4 housing revenue of $1.95 billion to $2.05 billion. KB Home shares fell 0.1% to $28.00 in the pre-market trading session.</li><li>Analysts expect <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FDX\">FedEx Corporation</a> to post quarterly earnings at $3.35 per share on revenue of $24.01 billion after the closing bell. FedEx shares gained 0.4% to $153.89 in pre-market trading.</li></ul><ul><li><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LEN\">Lennar Corporation</a> reported upbeat earnings for its third quarter on Wednesday. Lennar shares gained 1.5% to $77.09 in the pre-market trading session.</li><li>Analysts are expecting <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/COST\">Costco Wholesale Corporation</a> to have earned $4.16 per share on revenue of $72.06 billion for the latest quarter. The company will release earnings after the markets close. Costco shares rose 0.2% to $94.25 in pre-market trading.</li></ul></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>U.S. Stocks To Watch: Accenture, FedEx, Costco and More</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nU.S. Stocks To Watch: Accenture, FedEx, Costco and More\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Benzinga </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2022-09-22 17:11</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>With US stock futures trading higher this morning on Thursday, some of the stocks that may grab investor focus today are as follows:</p><ul><li>Wall Street expects <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ACN\">Accenture plc</a> to report quarterly earnings at $2.57 per share on revenue of $15.39 billion before the opening bell. Accenture shares fell 1.7% to $260.93 in after-hours trading.</li><li><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KBH\">KB Home</a> reported better-than-expected earnings for its third quarter. The company also said it sees Q4 housing revenue of $1.95 billion to $2.05 billion. KB Home shares fell 0.1% to $28.00 in the pre-market trading session.</li><li>Analysts expect <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FDX\">FedEx Corporation</a> to post quarterly earnings at $3.35 per share on revenue of $24.01 billion after the closing bell. FedEx shares gained 0.4% to $153.89 in pre-market trading.</li></ul><ul><li><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LEN\">Lennar Corporation</a> reported upbeat earnings for its third quarter on Wednesday. Lennar shares gained 1.5% to $77.09 in the pre-market trading session.</li><li>Analysts are expecting <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/COST\">Costco Wholesale Corporation</a> to have earned $4.16 per share on revenue of $72.06 billion for the latest quarter. The company will release earnings after the markets close. Costco shares rose 0.2% to $94.25 in pre-market trading.</li></ul></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"COST":"好市多","FDX":"联邦快递","KBH":"KB Home","LEN":"莱纳建筑公司","ACN":"埃森哲"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1179739004","content_text":"With US stock futures trading higher this morning on Thursday, some of the stocks that may grab investor focus today are as follows:Wall Street expects Accenture plc to report quarterly earnings at $2.57 per share on revenue of $15.39 billion before the opening bell. Accenture shares fell 1.7% to $260.93 in after-hours trading.KB Home reported better-than-expected earnings for its third quarter. The company also said it sees Q4 housing revenue of $1.95 billion to $2.05 billion. KB Home shares fell 0.1% to $28.00 in the pre-market trading session.Analysts expect FedEx Corporation to post quarterly earnings at $3.35 per share on revenue of $24.01 billion after the closing bell. FedEx shares gained 0.4% to $153.89 in pre-market trading.Lennar Corporation reported upbeat earnings for its third quarter on Wednesday. Lennar shares gained 1.5% to $77.09 in the pre-market trading session.Analysts are expecting Costco Wholesale Corporation to have earned $4.16 per share on revenue of $72.06 billion for the latest quarter. The company will release earnings after the markets close. 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One exception was healthcare, down 0.6% as it was weighed by a fall in shares of vaccine maker Moderna Inc a day after President Joe Biden said in a CBS interview that "the pandemic is over".</p><p>Industrial stocks rebounded 1.4% after a sharp drop on Friday, while banks gained 1.9%. Tech heavyweights Apple Inc and Tesla Inc rose 2.5% and 1.9%, respectively, to provide the biggest boost to the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TTWO\">Take-Two Interactive Software</a> Inc closed up 0.7%, having recovered from a slump earlier in the day caused by confirmation that a hacker had leaked the early footage of Grand Theft Auto VI, the next installment of the best-selling videogame.</p><p>Meanwhile, Knowbe4 Inc jumped 28.2% to $22.17, its highest close since May 4, after the cybersecurity firm said that <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/VGL.AU\">Vista</a> Equity Partners had offered to take it private for $24 per share, valuing the company at $4.22 billion.</p><p>The S&P 500 posted one new 52-week high and 28 new lows; the Nasdaq Composite recorded 29 new highs and 378 new lows. </p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>US STOCKS-Wall Street Ends Choppy Session Higher With Focus Firmly on Fed</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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}\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nUS STOCKS-Wall Street Ends Choppy Session Higher With Focus Firmly on Fed\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-09-20 04:33 GMT+8 <a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-stocks-wall-street-ends-203315834.html><strong>Reuters</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Wall Street's main indexes ended a seesaw session higher on Monday, as investors turned their attention to this week's policy meeting at the Federal Reserve and how aggressively it will hike interest ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-stocks-wall-street-ends-203315834.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".DJI":"道琼斯"},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-stocks-wall-street-ends-203315834.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2268919880","content_text":"Wall Street's main indexes ended a seesaw session higher on Monday, as investors turned their attention to this week's policy meeting at the Federal Reserve and how aggressively it will hike interest rates.Even more so than the Ukraine war or corporate earnings, the actions of the U.S. central bank are driving market sentiment as traders try to position themselves for a rising interest rate environment.The S&P 500 and the Nasdaq rebounded from logging their worst weekly percentage drop since June on Friday, as markets fully priced in at least a 75 basis point rise in rates at the end of Fed's Sept. 20-21 policy meeting, with Fed funds futures showing a 15% chance of a whopping 100 bps increase.Unexpectedly hot August inflation data last week also raised bets on increased rate hikes down the road, with the terminal rate for U.S. fed funds now at 4.46%.\"This is all about what's going to happen on Wednesday, and what comes out of the Fed's hands on Wednesday, so I think people are just going to wait and see until then,\" said Josh Markman, partner at Bel Air Investment Advisors.\"We had a poor print when the CPI came in, so the Fed - who is behind the 8-ball - is now trying to get ahead of the curve and curb inflation, and that (awareness) is driving equity markets.\"Reflecting the caution for new bets ahead of the Fed meeting, just 9.58 million shares traded on U.S. exchanges on Monday, the sixth lightest day for trading volume this year.Focus will also be on new economic projections, due to be published alongside the Fed's policy statement at 2 p.m. ET (1800 GMT) on Wednesday.Worries of Fed tightening have dragged the S&P 500 down 18.2% this year, with a recent dire earnings report from delivery firm FedEx Corp, an inverted U.S. Treasury yield curve and warnings from the World Bank and the IMF about an impending global economic slowdown adding to the woes.Goldman Sachs cut its forecast for 2023 U.S. GDP late on Friday as it projects a more aggressive Fed and sees that pushing the jobless rate higher than it previously expected.\"The Fed will continue to plough along, we'll get 75 (bps) on Wednesday, but what comes next and whether they are going to pause or not after Wednesday, that is going to be the interesting part,\" said Bel Air's Markman.The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 197.26 points, or 0.64%, to 31,019.68, the S&P 500 gained 26.56 points, or 0.69%, to 3,899.89 and the Nasdaq Composite added 86.62 points, or 0.76%, to 11,535.02.A majority of the 11 S&P 500 sectors rose. One exception was healthcare, down 0.6% as it was weighed by a fall in shares of vaccine maker Moderna Inc a day after President Joe Biden said in a CBS interview that \"the pandemic is over\".Industrial stocks rebounded 1.4% after a sharp drop on Friday, while banks gained 1.9%. Tech heavyweights Apple Inc and Tesla Inc rose 2.5% and 1.9%, respectively, to provide the biggest boost to the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq.Take-Two Interactive Software Inc closed up 0.7%, having recovered from a slump earlier in the day caused by confirmation that a hacker had leaked the early footage of Grand Theft Auto VI, the next installment of the best-selling videogame.Meanwhile, Knowbe4 Inc jumped 28.2% to $22.17, its highest close since May 4, after the cybersecurity firm said that Vista Equity Partners had offered to take it private for $24 per share, valuing the company at $4.22 billion.The S&P 500 posted one new 52-week high and 28 new lows; the Nasdaq Composite recorded 29 new highs and 378 new lows.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{".IXIC":0.9,".DJI":0.9,".SPX":0.6}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3252,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9910346831,"gmtCreate":1663564000423,"gmtModify":1676537291676,"author":{"id":"3565581801642914","authorId":"3565581801642914","name":"Meeooww","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4e96aeba8e0507542c492dab07ea2828","crmLevel":12,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3565581801642914","idStr":"3565581801642914"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"K","listText":"K","text":"K","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9910346831","repostId":"1100137906","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1100137906","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1663560476,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1100137906?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-09-19 12:07","market":"us","language":"en","title":"The Fed Needs To Break The Market At This Week's Meeting","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1100137906","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryThe Fed has no room for errors at this week's FOMC meeting.The communications must be crystal","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>The Fed has no room for errors at this week's FOMC meeting.</li><li>The communications must be crystal to avoid a repeat of the July disaster.</li><li>The Fed needs the market to cave in to its demands.</li></ul><p>No matter how much the Fed has tried, the market still doesn't believe how serious the Fed is about bringing down inflation. The Fed has consistently said that it plans to raise rates to restrictive territory and hold rates there until there are clear signs that inflation is heading lower.</p><p>Yes, the Fed made a massive attempt to rein in the markets at Jackson Hole and hammered the point further in the days after Jackson Hole. Now, it needs to seal the deal. Yes, the market has started to buckle, but not enough. Fed Funds futures have repriced rapidly and now see terminal rates hitting nearly 4.4% by April.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/747885c2bf42aec7edd0434de89ff03d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Bloomberg</p><p><b>Markets Still Don't Believe The Fed</b></p><p>But still, the market is pricing in rate cuts by the end of 2023 and sees rates falling back to 4%. So yes, while the market agrees that rates need to go higher, it still believes the Fed will be cutting rates by around 40 bps by the end of next year. The spread between the April 2023 Fed Fund futures and December 2023 contracts on August 25 was 32 bps. The current spread suggests the market believes the Fed may be more aggressive in cutting rates next year.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8f8a05f27f21f9f58f44993c24f0daa1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"244\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Bloomberg</p><p>Sure, the Fed is making progress on higher rates, but the market doesn't believe that the Fed will be holding rates at the terminal level. That is where the Fed needs to finish what it started at Jackson Hole, and the best place for the Fed to deliver that final blow will be in its Summary of Economic Projections, or dot plots.</p><p><b>Higher For Longer</b></p><p>If the Fed wants to make its point clear, it will need to ensure that it not only sees rates getting to 4.4% or higher by the middle of 2023 but that it sees rates staying there for all of 2023 and perhaps through 2024. That is the message the Fed needs to send the market so that the Fed Funds futures begin repricing with that terminal rate holding at 4.4% so that the back of the futures curve lifts.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c6a3147d1203e0785cbe84a8f5761d45\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"312\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Mott Capital</p><p>It is a critical message because if the Fed can deliver it, it would help to reprice the Treasury and Real Yield curve, pulling longer-term rates higher. It would help to steepen the yield curve, especially on rates beyond the 2-year, where a clear inversion occurs on both nominal and real yields.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/077b423c22c6af690494f068eac8c266\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"342\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Bloomberg</p><p>This curve reshaping would be very bullish for the dollar and help it continue strengthening over the euro, yen, and yuan. Meanwhile, it would be bad news for risk assets, especially stocks, as rising real yields would weigh heavily on equity valuations.</p><p><b>No Room For Error</b></p><p>The Fed can't afford to have the same disaster at the July FOMC meeting, which made financial conditions materially ease. As much as financial conditions have tightened since Jackson Hole, they have not tightened enough. The Chicago Fed Financial Conditions Index (NFCI) and adjusted NFCI is still well below their late June highs, while the Bloomberg Financial Conditions Index (the measurements are inverted) has also failed to get back to June levels. The Goldman Sachs US Financial Conditions Index is the only index that shows financial conditions have tightened back to their June levels.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/466b229bd2abeb5cbc959893c58891b4\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"337\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Bloomberg</p><p>The Fed cannot afford to get further behind the inflation battle and needs rates to continue pushing higher and financial conditions to tighten further. The Fed is still very much behind in bringing inflation down. The Fed Funds rates are profoundly negative against the inflation rate on CPI and PCE measures, including or excluding energy.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/00da5e8bda75fedfab02d3efed87ff04\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"336\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Bloomberg</p><p><b>The Fed Needs To Break The Market</b></p><p>This is the Fed's battle, and it needs the market to align with its view if it has any chance of bringing inflation down. Because the Fed can only really move the front of the yield curve, but through communications and projections, it can heavily influence the longer-dated side of the curve, and that is the part of the curve the Fed has struggled the most with.</p><p>So while stocks may rise sharply if the Fed only delivers a 75 bps rate, don't be surprised if that rally fades quickly if the Fed can provide a hawkish message through its forward guidance. That is where the Fed can finally shock the markets and get them to break.</p><p>Because for the first time in many years, it may be the market that finally gives into the Fed, not the Fed giving into the market.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Fed Needs To Break The Market At This Week's Meeting</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Fed Needs To Break The Market At This Week's Meeting\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-09-19 12:07 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541678-fed-needs-break-market-this-week-meeting><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryThe Fed has no room for errors at this week's FOMC meeting.The communications must be crystal to avoid a repeat of the July disaster.The Fed needs the market to cave in to its demands.No matter...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541678-fed-needs-break-market-this-week-meeting\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".DJI":"道琼斯",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541678-fed-needs-break-market-this-week-meeting","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1100137906","content_text":"SummaryThe Fed has no room for errors at this week's FOMC meeting.The communications must be crystal to avoid a repeat of the July disaster.The Fed needs the market to cave in to its demands.No matter how much the Fed has tried, the market still doesn't believe how serious the Fed is about bringing down inflation. The Fed has consistently said that it plans to raise rates to restrictive territory and hold rates there until there are clear signs that inflation is heading lower.Yes, the Fed made a massive attempt to rein in the markets at Jackson Hole and hammered the point further in the days after Jackson Hole. Now, it needs to seal the deal. Yes, the market has started to buckle, but not enough. Fed Funds futures have repriced rapidly and now see terminal rates hitting nearly 4.4% by April.BloombergMarkets Still Don't Believe The FedBut still, the market is pricing in rate cuts by the end of 2023 and sees rates falling back to 4%. So yes, while the market agrees that rates need to go higher, it still believes the Fed will be cutting rates by around 40 bps by the end of next year. The spread between the April 2023 Fed Fund futures and December 2023 contracts on August 25 was 32 bps. The current spread suggests the market believes the Fed may be more aggressive in cutting rates next year.BloombergSure, the Fed is making progress on higher rates, but the market doesn't believe that the Fed will be holding rates at the terminal level. That is where the Fed needs to finish what it started at Jackson Hole, and the best place for the Fed to deliver that final blow will be in its Summary of Economic Projections, or dot plots.Higher For LongerIf the Fed wants to make its point clear, it will need to ensure that it not only sees rates getting to 4.4% or higher by the middle of 2023 but that it sees rates staying there for all of 2023 and perhaps through 2024. That is the message the Fed needs to send the market so that the Fed Funds futures begin repricing with that terminal rate holding at 4.4% so that the back of the futures curve lifts.Mott CapitalIt is a critical message because if the Fed can deliver it, it would help to reprice the Treasury and Real Yield curve, pulling longer-term rates higher. It would help to steepen the yield curve, especially on rates beyond the 2-year, where a clear inversion occurs on both nominal and real yields.BloombergThis curve reshaping would be very bullish for the dollar and help it continue strengthening over the euro, yen, and yuan. Meanwhile, it would be bad news for risk assets, especially stocks, as rising real yields would weigh heavily on equity valuations.No Room For ErrorThe Fed can't afford to have the same disaster at the July FOMC meeting, which made financial conditions materially ease. As much as financial conditions have tightened since Jackson Hole, they have not tightened enough. The Chicago Fed Financial Conditions Index (NFCI) and adjusted NFCI is still well below their late June highs, while the Bloomberg Financial Conditions Index (the measurements are inverted) has also failed to get back to June levels. The Goldman Sachs US Financial Conditions Index is the only index that shows financial conditions have tightened back to their June levels.BloombergThe Fed cannot afford to get further behind the inflation battle and needs rates to continue pushing higher and financial conditions to tighten further. The Fed is still very much behind in bringing inflation down. The Fed Funds rates are profoundly negative against the inflation rate on CPI and PCE measures, including or excluding energy.BloombergThe Fed Needs To Break The MarketThis is the Fed's battle, and it needs the market to align with its view if it has any chance of bringing inflation down. Because the Fed can only really move the front of the yield curve, but through communications and projections, it can heavily influence the longer-dated side of the curve, and that is the part of the curve the Fed has struggled the most with.So while stocks may rise sharply if the Fed only delivers a 75 bps rate, don't be surprised if that rally fades quickly if the Fed can provide a hawkish message through its forward guidance. That is where the Fed can finally shock the markets and get them to break.Because for the first time in many years, it may be the market that finally gives into the Fed, not the Fed giving into the market.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{".IXIC":0.9,".DJI":0.9,".SPX":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3109,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9937491087,"gmtCreate":1663475196750,"gmtModify":1676537276463,"author":{"id":"3565581801642914","authorId":"3565581801642914","name":"Meeooww","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4e96aeba8e0507542c492dab07ea2828","crmLevel":12,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3565581801642914","idStr":"3565581801642914"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9937491087","repostId":"2268672370","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2268672370","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1663460267,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2268672370?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-09-18 08:17","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Can the Fed Tame Inflation Without Further Crushing the Stock Market? What Investors Need to Know","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2268672370","media":"MarketWatch","summary":"Investors should brace for more volatility with policy makers expected to deliver another jumbo rate","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Investors should brace for more volatility with policy makers expected to deliver another jumbo rate hike</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b4166c0ac7b0bdf7caa1837ef618a67\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"487\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Fed Chair Jerome Powell says bringing down inflation will cause pain for households and businesses.</span></p><p>The Federal Reserve isn’t trying to slam the stock market as it rapidly raises interest rates in its bid to slow inflation still running red hot — but investors need to be prepared for more pain and volatility because policy makers aren’t going to be cowed by a deepening selloff, investors and strategists said.</p><p>“I don’t think they’re necessarily trying to drive inflation down by destroying stock prices or bond prices, but it is having that effect.” said Tim Courtney, chief investment officer at Exencial Wealth Advisors, in an interview.</p><p>U.S. stocks fell sharply in the past week after hopes for a pronounced cooling in inflation were dashed by a hotter-than-expected August inflation reading. The data cemented expectations among fed-funds futures traders for a rate hike of at least 75 basis points when the Fed concludes its policy meeting on Sept. 21, with some traders and analysts looking for an increase of 100 basis points, or a full percentage point.</p><p>The Dow Jones Industrial Average logged a 4.1% weekly fall, while the S&P 500 dropped 4.8% and the Nasdaq Composite suffered a 5.5% decline. The S&P 500 ended Friday below the 3,900 level viewed as an important area of technical support, with some chart watchers eyeing the potential for a test of the large-cap benchmark’s 2022 low at 3,666.77 set on June 16.</p><p>A profit warning from global shipping giant and economic bellwether FedEx Corp. further stoked recession fears, contributing to stock-market losses on Friday.</p><p>Treasurys also fell, with yield on the 2-year Treasury note soaring to a nearly 15-year high above 3.85% on expectations the Fed will continue pushing rates higher in coming months. Yields rise as prices fall.</p><p>Investors are operating in an environment where the central bank’s need to rein in stubborn inflation is widely seen having eliminated the notion of a figurative “Fed put” on the stock market.</p><p>The concept of a Fed put has been around since at least the October 1987 stock-market crash prompted the Alan Greenspan-led central bank to lower interest rates. An actual put option is a financial derivative that gives the holder the right but not the obligation to sell the underlying asset at a set level, known as the strike price, serving as an insurance policy against a market decline.</p><p>Some economists and analysts have even suggested the Fed should welcome or even aim for market losses, which could serve to tighten financial conditions as investors scale back spending.</p><p>William Dudley, the former president of the New York Fed, argued earlier this year that the central bank won’t get a handle on inflation that’s running near a 40-year high unless they make investors suffer. “It’s hard to know how much the Federal Reserve will need to do to get inflation under control,” wrote Dudley in a Bloomberg column in April. “But one thing is certain: to be effective, it’ll have to inflict more losses on stock and bond investors than it has so far.”</p><p>Some market participants aren’t convinced. Aoifinn Devitt, chief investment officer at Moneta,said the Fed likely sees stock-market volatility as a byproduct of its efforts to tighten monetary policy, not an objective.</p><p>“They recognize that stocks can be collateral damage in a tightening cycle,” but that doesn’t mean that stocks “have to collapse,” Devitt said.</p><p>The Fed, however, is prepared to tolerate seeing markets decline and the economy slow and even tip into recession as it focuses on taming inflation, she said.</p><p>The Federal Reserve held the fed funds target rate at a range of 0% to 0.25% between 2008 and 2015, as it dealt with the financial crisis and its aftermath. The Fed also cut rates to near zero again in March 2020 in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. With a rock-bottom interest rate, the Dow skyrocketed over 40%, while the large-cap index S&P 500 jumped over 60% between March 2020 and December 2021, according to Dow Jones Market Data.</p><p>Investors got used to “the tailwind for over a decade with falling interest rates” while looking for the Fed to step in with its “put” should the going get rocky, said Courtney at Exencial Wealth Advisors.</p><p>“I think (now) the Fed message is ‘you’re not gonna get this tailwind anymore’,” Courtney told MarketWatch on Thursday. “I think markets can grow, but they’re gonna have to grow on their own because the markets are like a greenhouse where the temperatures have to be kept at a certain level all day and all night, and I think that’s the message that markets can and should grow on their own without the greenhouse effect.”</p><p>Meanwhile, the Fed’s aggressive stance means investors should be prepared for what may be a “few more daily stabs downward” that could eventually prove to be a “final big flush,” said Liz Young, head of investment strategy at SoFi, in a Thursday note.</p><p>“This may sound odd, but if that happens swiftly, meaning within the next couple months, that actually becomes the bull case in my view,” she said. “It could be a quick and painful drop, resulting in a renewed move higher later in the year that’s more durable, as inflation falls more notably.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Can the Fed Tame Inflation Without Further Crushing the Stock Market? 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The data cemented expectations among fed-funds futures traders for a rate hike of at least 75 basis points when the Fed concludes its policy meeting on Sept. 21, with some traders and analysts looking for an increase of 100 basis points, or a full percentage point.The Dow Jones Industrial Average logged a 4.1% weekly fall, while the S&P 500 dropped 4.8% and the Nasdaq Composite suffered a 5.5% decline. The S&P 500 ended Friday below the 3,900 level viewed as an important area of technical support, with some chart watchers eyeing the potential for a test of the large-cap benchmark’s 2022 low at 3,666.77 set on June 16.A profit warning from global shipping giant and economic bellwether FedEx Corp. further stoked recession fears, contributing to stock-market losses on Friday.Treasurys also fell, with yield on the 2-year Treasury note soaring to a nearly 15-year high above 3.85% on expectations the Fed will continue pushing rates higher in coming months. Yields rise as prices fall.Investors are operating in an environment where the central bank’s need to rein in stubborn inflation is widely seen having eliminated the notion of a figurative “Fed put” on the stock market.The concept of a Fed put has been around since at least the October 1987 stock-market crash prompted the Alan Greenspan-led central bank to lower interest rates. An actual put option is a financial derivative that gives the holder the right but not the obligation to sell the underlying asset at a set level, known as the strike price, serving as an insurance policy against a market decline.Some economists and analysts have even suggested the Fed should welcome or even aim for market losses, which could serve to tighten financial conditions as investors scale back spending.William Dudley, the former president of the New York Fed, argued earlier this year that the central bank won’t get a handle on inflation that’s running near a 40-year high unless they make investors suffer. “It’s hard to know how much the Federal Reserve will need to do to get inflation under control,” wrote Dudley in a Bloomberg column in April. “But one thing is certain: to be effective, it’ll have to inflict more losses on stock and bond investors than it has so far.”Some market participants aren’t convinced. Aoifinn Devitt, chief investment officer at Moneta,said the Fed likely sees stock-market volatility as a byproduct of its efforts to tighten monetary policy, not an objective.“They recognize that stocks can be collateral damage in a tightening cycle,” but that doesn’t mean that stocks “have to collapse,” Devitt said.The Fed, however, is prepared to tolerate seeing markets decline and the economy slow and even tip into recession as it focuses on taming inflation, she said.The Federal Reserve held the fed funds target rate at a range of 0% to 0.25% between 2008 and 2015, as it dealt with the financial crisis and its aftermath. The Fed also cut rates to near zero again in March 2020 in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. With a rock-bottom interest rate, the Dow skyrocketed over 40%, while the large-cap index S&P 500 jumped over 60% between March 2020 and December 2021, according to Dow Jones Market Data.Investors got used to “the tailwind for over a decade with falling interest rates” while looking for the Fed to step in with its “put” should the going get rocky, said Courtney at Exencial Wealth Advisors.“I think (now) the Fed message is ‘you’re not gonna get this tailwind anymore’,” Courtney told MarketWatch on Thursday. “I think markets can grow, but they’re gonna have to grow on their own because the markets are like a greenhouse where the temperatures have to be kept at a certain level all day and all night, and I think that’s the message that markets can and should grow on their own without the greenhouse effect.”Meanwhile, the Fed’s aggressive stance means investors should be prepared for what may be a “few more daily stabs downward” that could eventually prove to be a “final big flush,” said Liz Young, head of investment strategy at SoFi, in a Thursday note.“This may sound odd, but if that happens swiftly, meaning within the next couple months, that actually becomes the bull case in my view,” she said. “It could be a quick and painful drop, resulting in a renewed move higher later in the year that’s more durable, as inflation falls more notably.”","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{".IXIC":0.9,".DJI":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2921,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":true}